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Another preacher!

What luck – we had another man today preach about hell and damnation for all! This one was the ‘normal guy’ that I referred to in my last entry.

This man attracted quite a large audience, at least 100 students were listening in (and cracking jokes abut him to one another) around the lunch period. Due to my class schedule today I was able to spend some time (ok, it was over 2 hours…) listening in to his rather extreme views.

At the beginning he had attracted a large crowd due to the fact that another student, female, was provoking him on. She finally sat down and wrote on a piece of paper “Willing to go to hell to have sex” on the reverse “Dammed to hell” (as I recall). She was openly questioning him and provoking him, which led to plenty of laughter from the group of students.

Now, neither of them were right – but I admit it was somewhat comical to see them argue and insult one another in such a public way. At the same time it was pretty sad. Eventually the woman had to go to class, and he sat down in his lawn chair.

At this point he calmed down and a few students approached for a more private conversation. I happened to be in the few that approached and listened.

His message was that real Christians don’t sin (Did I just witness him calling that woman some rather harsh names not a half hour ago?). And he tried to explain and defend that position by naming people from the Bible as sinless.
He quoted Genesis 6:9:
“Noah was a righteous man, blameless…”
he stopped here – and added ‘Perfect’ to the passage, I’ll complete the passage for you
“…among the people of his time, and he walked with God.” (NIV) At the time I did not know the full verse, I looked it up when I had a chance.

His key point was the single word ‘Blameless’, and he never said the rest of the passage. He flat out said “Noah was perfect“.
I asked him a question, “If Noah was perfect, as you say, why did he die?”
Genesis 3:19 states “…till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” This is a result of the first sin – we die (among other things). We all die because of sin, because we are born into it. The one person born without sin died for our sins, as Jesus had none.

Also, why did he not state the whole passage? Simple – it allows someone to argue back. Noah was blameless “among the people of his time.” The people in Noah’s time were so evil God destroyed every last one of them. Was Noah blameless in comparison to the rest of the world? I don’t doubt at all that Noah wasn’t a good man, but ‘perfect’ is pushing the wording a bit far.
In response to my simple question, he said that all people die due to Gods will and moved onto another question (very quickly, I might add).

Next on topic was Romans 5, probably one of the most well known chapters in the Bible. As you know (or should know) Romans 5 is all about justification by faith alone, that is ‘no strings attached’. According to him this isn’t good enough. Simply believing isn’t enough. One must add good works, and we must be sinless and perfect.

…so a few quotes…
“Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin,” (Rom. 3:20).
“being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,” (Rom. 3:24).
“Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law,” (Rom. 3:28).
“But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness,” (Rom. 4:5).
“For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith,” (Rom. 4:13).
“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,” (Rom. 5:1).
“Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him,” (Rom. 5:9).
“that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved,” (Rom. 10:9).
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,” (Eph. 2:8).

We all make mistakes. Nobody on this earth is perfect. By his standards I guess he is right after all, we’re all on the “Highway to hell” (A few students broke out into song when that was said…).

I’m going to end with that.

PS – I’ll try to keep my next one short(er)!

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